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The tenor of today's BlogLeft meeting in Worcester is much like that of the early convenience store industry. Huh? and How would anyone know?

The first hour was a chance for local leftist bloggers to put faces with URLs, for politicians to hit us up for support, and to swap info. I suddenly recalled my time decades ago as the editor of a grocery magazine. Hannaford's Lil Peach, Southland's 7-Eleven and many others were all growing, energetic and excited.

They would meet and talk about what they did best. Bloggers today have similar joy at their passionate tasks. Those who get lots of hits and even make advertising revenue are happy to describe how they do it.

For the convenience-store industry that ended. Cities were saturated and managers stopped talking to each other. The open minds and hands shut.

I can't see that happening with bloggers, but just in case things get narrow, we can enjoy such events.

Update: 11:49 EST

Before the actual program, the gatherers gathered. Clearly, many of us bloggers do not have sales personalities. Yet, in the comfort of blogdom,we could chat.

John McDonough was my Rep. from Jamaica Plain. Now, he promotes health care for all. He also could say the perfect thing that every blogger wants and needs to hear -- he reads my stuff.  It didn't hurt that for years he lived a couple of blocks from me.

As Lynne noted, 11 a.m. is still a bit early for some bloggers. The waitrons were quick to put out flatware, but waited to bring the coffee jugs. Sad and addled bloggers careered off the coffee table, only to return 10 minutes later looking for their legal fix.

Even among the several JP bloggers here, we have separate foci. That doesn't make any of us less sure that our issues are the important ones. Few seem to aspire to be one of the small number of bloggers who earn money from doing it.

The speakers here are largely those heavy hitters who know how to speak publicly, who know how to promote themselves, and how to structure their blogging for maximum readership by those in power.

Coffee arrives, a small line of eager mug holders quiets and pauses, only to return to swapping cards and hints.


Update: 1:52 EST

Frederick Clarkson concluded his presentation with a major theme on same-sex marriage. He said that the current struggle with change the face of politics in Massachusetts forever.

"Massachusetts is ground zero," he said. He predicted that a tremendous amount of resources, financial and human, will pour into the commonwealth for this effort.

Bloggers will have a special responsibility, he added. This includes:

  • --Being aware of who's coming.
  • --Learn why they're coming.
  • --Keep track of what they do here.
  • --Help the media and political leaders understand what they are doing.
There are only two years to do this. Bloggers can make a huge difference.


Update: 3:36 EST

We can look to our existing technologies as well as to world locations where blogging is more important than here for future trends. Civilities.net's John Garfunkel educed a tableful of bloggers' ideas on what they do and what they expect.

A sobering set of comments on overseas blogs contasted with what we are doing. In places like Iran and China, there is virtually no free media. Dangers to bloggers aside, blogs are a primary source of information and opinion.

In addition, some noted that we here have not gotten the hang of collaborative blogging. A key example was South Korea's ohmynews, where bloggers do original reporting. The site filters and presents the posts. Readers not only rate, but can remunerate their favorite posters.

Cos says that the technologies we need for the future of blogging may exist. Our best strategy as bloggers is to teach as many others as possible about blogging, about Wikis and related technologies and methods we use.

After that, one or more somebodies will come up with the best ideas on how to use and expand those.


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One thing that Stirling keeps hammering home is simplification.  His biggest point is that bloggers need to break things down, this is our biggest function.  He says that we need to make sure we are analyzing data in the simplest way possible.  I think this is the only way we can debunk the nonsense the right is throwing out.

I also like his suggestion that bloggers need to be the biggest supporters of the fellow bloggers.  One thing I am not very good at is reading something great on a blog and linking to it on my own blog.  We really need to stay focused on promoting each other to get the message out there.

Maybe honesty IS the best policy! Mass Revolution Now!

by apmiller on 12/10/2005 11:52:56 AM EST

On behalf of the Cortex community I would like to welcome all those joining us from Blogleft MA. Please make yourself at home.

If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a line at politica@politicalcortex.co m and I'll get back to you as soon as possible.

Enjoy!

Political Cortex -- Brain Food for the Body Politic

by Tom Ball on 12/10/2005 11:30:28 AM EST

Stirling Newberry is now giving his keynote - "Drilling Down: How to the numbers without being a geek." He is discussing the process of his time on the Wes Clark campaign, and how to compress reams upon reams of campaign data, policies, and numbers into an easily digestible form - the sports page in your average newspaper is an example of how to do this successfully.

One of the things we bloggers can do is, in the words of the Roper organization, become "influentials." We tend to take on and digest information in interesting and pithy ways, so we can be the people that others seek out for information that is clear, direct, and honest. Cleverness and succinctness is absolutely necessary, as is repetition - we need to be absolutely unrelenting in our effort to get our message out.

WF

Walk in Brain - c'mon, you know you wanna.

by Wes F on 12/10/2005 11:35:45 AM EST

Stirling brings up an interesting point - even those of us who are politically saavy don't know everything there is politically (think about it - how many school board elections, for example, have you just guessed at a candidate?). This is one of the ways in which this gathering and the larger blogosphere can help - you learn who knows what and who can be trusted.

WF

Walk in Brain - c'mon, you know you wanna.

by Wes F on 12/10/2005 11:39:35 AM EST

Charley on the MTA of Blue Mass Group: What is the confluence of knowing what the problem is and actually doing something about it?

SN: One of the most effective techniques of exercising power that we as bloggers can do is "pelting" - when a person or group does something stupid, we put their contact information out there and let the internet do the rest. If you have to answer 500 (or 5000 or 50000) emails, you think twice about doing something stupid.

Of course, we as bloggers can also do GOOD things by getting the word out about what good people are doing.

A third thing we can do is teach people how to participate in the democratic process. Which committees do the work? How do you get on them? How do you act when you're there? Let people know where the work is, and people will go to it.

Walk in Brain - c'mon, you know you wanna.

by Wes F on 12/10/2005 11:48:22 AM EST

Numbers are really hard, in that I'm an artist, not a mathamatition (er...or a speller). Something I find useful is to surround myself and talk to people who do understand the information that's put out there, let them help me with analysis, and then find the "cute" (as Stirling said) way to say it.

My lefty MA blog: Left in Lowell

by Lynne on 12/10/2005 11:49:28 AM EST

Q: How can we both get out the necessary information and put it in context?

SN: Every partisan blogger needs to both play to their base (example: Alito said "X") and to the center (Alito also said "Y," and this is why that is out of the mainstream").

Q (paraphrased): We work on platforms that are designed for community interaction. What are the possibilities here?

SN: The great thing about these systems is they allow both community interaction and rating systems - if you like or don't like something, you can say so. The community aspect of this is powerful - all voices can speak and have their opinions heard. This is the next step for civic-based bulletin boards. People who cannot make town meeting can use this technology to make their voices heard.

Walk in Brain - c'mon, you know you wanna.

by Wes F on 12/10/2005 11:54:34 AM EST

We can bring people together - people think "Maybe it's just MY property taxes that went up" or "Maybe it's just ME that had to deal with this issue." We can let people know they are not alone.

I LIKE that.

WF

Walk in Brain - c'mon, you know you wanna.

by Wes F on 12/10/2005 11:57:03 AM EST

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Paleo-politics - union hall, meetings, door-knocking
Media-politics - dropping lots of money, using mass media

We as progressives couldn't compete (at first) on the media-politics, so we retreated into single-issue politics (SIDS, Bovine Growth Hormones, etc.)

The third way - what we can do - marrying the speed, breadth, and immediacy of media-politics with the personal connection of paleo-politics: The Precinct Captain meets Broadband.

WF

Walk in Brain - c'mon, you know you wanna.

by Wes F on 12/10/2005 12:00:01 PM EST

The question was how to answer the question, "Well, not everyone is on computers."

Stirling brought out the point that as bloggers, we can give our readers tools to "win the watercooler debate" and that reaches far offline.

My lefty MA blog: Left in Lowell

by Lynne on 12/10/2005 12:05:40 PM EST

...I feel I'm there.  Photos?

The Albany Project. The best damned blog about New York State politics.

by NYBri on 12/10/2005 12:07:05 PM EST

...has a laptop with an A:\ drive, LOL.

(I have an old Mavica, taking photos, but can't get them off the floppies til I get home...)

My lefty MA blog: Left in Lowell

by Lynne on 12/10/2005 01:19:13 PM EST

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Fred Clarkson is beginning his talk. Stay tuned.

WF

Walk in Brain - c'mon, you know you wanna.

by Wes F on 12/10/2005 01:16:29 PM EST

Fred is talking about his experience working with the Bob Reich campaign in 2002 - how winning the Northampton caucuses was heady, but very few of the Reich supporters knew how to actually run a campaign.

"The problem is us - we talk a real good game about democracy, but we don't DO democracy." We have great ideas on issues but not much experience in ELECTING candidates.

WF

Walk in Brain - c'mon, you know you wanna.

by Wes F on 12/10/2005 01:22:51 PM EST

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Fred, on our responsibility to engage, vote, run, and activate: "How is it that people talk about polls instead about getting people to the polls."

My lefty MA blog: Left in Lowell

by Lynne on 12/10/2005 01:24:34 PM EST

On less than 25K/year, the group delivers votes, "didn't hire pollsters, didn't hire consultants" but learned how to run or help progressive candidates and get the voters out.

My lefty MA blog: Left in Lowell

by Lynne on 12/10/2005 01:26:40 PM EST

PDM is the org that came out of the Robert Reich campaign

My lefty MA blog: Left in Lowell

by Lynne on 12/10/2005 01:27:15 PM EST

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PDM has been very successful branching out into communities.  For instance in Somerville the local group, PDSomerville, has been increasingly successful at electing great progressive candidates for the city council.

Maybe honesty IS the best policy! Mass Revolution Now!

by apmiller on 12/10/2005 01:29:51 PM EST

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Fred just made an excellent point.  He said the problem with politics is not so much about the politicians but rather is us.  We are too passive!  That certainly is true of me and something I am trying to "fix."  It is not enough to just blog or just comment on blogs.  We need to get out from behind the screens and put our passion to work to make sure that we actually get the candidates elected on all level.

Fred is talking about how organizing does not have to be high profile or lots of money.  More important than anything else is simply time and energy.  Getting people to give their time and their energy.  I think that is what is exciting about BlogLeft, we are starting to come out from behind our screens and organize more!

Maybe honesty IS the best policy! Mass Revolution Now!

by apmiller on 12/10/2005 01:26:58 PM EST

The Albany Project. The best damned blog about New York State politics.

by NYBri on 12/10/2005 01:42:35 PM EST

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When you live within a system of electoral democracy, "there is no substitute" for winning elections.

If you haven't heard Fred Clarkson speak, you are missing out.

WF

Walk in Brain - c'mon, you know you wanna.

by Wes F on 12/10/2005 01:27:10 PM EST

Fred is a great speaker talking sensibly about how we can recapture democracy here in Mass.

Maybe honesty IS the best policy! Mass Revolution Now!

by apmiller on 12/10/2005 01:31:13 PM EST

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"was in the three special elections" in MA (some open seats this last year allowed progressive candidates to win, and the MA blogs and PDM and others were key to that).

My lefty MA blog: Left in Lowell

by Lynne on 12/10/2005 01:29:15 PM EST

"The changes in the news business are part of the reason why blogging is important." - This is a sidebar comment from the discussion of the three most recent special elections for the State House.

WF

Walk in Brain - c'mon, you know you wanna.

by Wes F on 12/10/2005 01:30:35 PM EST

Fred is talking about the Deval Patrick campaign and the cultivation of bloggers - the Berkshire Eagle wouldn't interview him until after November 2005, and Fred (and others) raised a stink about it.

We have to help hold the media accountable.

WF

Walk in Brain - c'mon, you know you wanna.

by Wes F on 12/10/2005 01:35:29 PM EST

Some Fred notes:

Mentions Deval Patrick, who could not get in the newspapers - often told that this or that paper were not going to cover the race until the fall - and so the blogs got a lot of info, interviews, comprehensive

Hold media accountable to its civil responsibility.

RE the anti-gay-marriage ballot init in MA:
"Massachussets is ground zero" for religious righters, they will spend a lot of resources for the anti-gay-marriage initiative.

Fred: We need to keep track of what they are doing, help the media, political people to understand what is going on.

My lefty MA blog: Left in Lowell

by Lynne on 12/10/2005 01:39:22 PM EST

With the anti-gay-marriage initiative on the ballot, Massachusetts is about to become Ground Zero for the most potent debate of our time. Fred and others have created Talk To Action, a Scoop-based group blog about the religious right.

WF

Walk in Brain - c'mon, you know you wanna.

by Wes F on 12/10/2005 01:39:51 PM EST

Concern about bloggers working wtih campaigns in backhanded way.

Meehan means well in wanting to make it that large corps can't use the internet.

They see the world in top-down model, which you have to protect voters/consumers.

My lefty MA blog: Left in Lowell

by Lynne on 12/10/2005 02:20:26 PM EST

Immediately visible if online community is a pseudo community. Can fake traffic, etc, but it will become evident.

My lefty MA blog: Left in Lowell

by Lynne on 12/10/2005 02:21:39 PM EST

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"Does a lot more harm than harm than good to the candidate that instigated."

Current law is inadequate, but just imposing the Meehan-Shay law is too restrictive.

My lefty MA blog: Left in Lowell

by Lynne on 12/10/2005 02:25:22 PM EST

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In 1998, the largest Internet political website was Free Republic, and the Usenet sites had the most readership.

Thankfully, that's changed - and the level of discourse has risen in proportion. We still need work, though.

WF

Walk in Brain - c'mon, you know you wanna.

by Wes F on 12/10/2005 02:37:27 PM EST

One of the major differences between the right-wing blogosphere and the progressive blogosphere is the repetition of talking points.

WF

Walk in Brain - c'mon, you know you wanna.

by Wes F on 12/10/2005 02:50:24 PM EST

How to stop HR 4914:

(1) Go after Shays
(2) Let Meehan know that, well, he's an OK rep, but you couldn't in good conscience support him for higher office
(3) Fight talking points with truth

WF

Walk in Brain - c'mon, you know you wanna.

by Wes F on 12/10/2005 02:56:26 PM EST

...I wish I had been there, but with these comments, I feel as though I was.

Thanks.

The Albany Project. The best damned blog about New York State politics.

by NYBri on 12/10/2005 05:53:17 PM EST

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