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This morning on local radio, a morning show team interviewed Shirley Phelps-Roker, the attorney representing Fred Phelps' Westboro Baptist Church.  Phelps and his gang have gained recent attention in this part of the country from their presence at the funeral of a local soldier.  On par with their typical pattern, they held signs and tried to make the case that military deaths are direct payback from God for America's general immorality.

The audio from this interview has been posted, and I must warn you, it ain't pretty.  (MP3 format, 13M)

To paraphrase, Phelps-Roker opened with a predictable bang:

"What we are doing is, we are putting the cup of the fury of God's Wrath to your lips, and we are making you drink it.  We are helping you connect the dots from the filthy manner of life of this nation to the dead soldiers, to the whirlwind."

"God is punishing America, and his weapon of choice is the IED's (Improvised Explosive Devices) that blow the fruit of America to pieces, punishing this nation."

"I am so sorry that those parents raised that child for the Devil, and sent him to hell early."

Finally, the stumbling, bumbling, outraged show host spilled out: "You are Osama bin Laden!  You have taken a religion and perverted it in a disgusting way!"

Hmmm... Now isn't that an interesting insight... From this point the interview deteriorates quickly, building to the final ode de' stinketh from Ms. Phelps-Roker: "Au contrair, you NINNY!" (It really is a must listen - Saturday Night Live could use this interview, verbatim, as a script.)

By this point, the interview was already over for me.  Because as soon as the host identified the Westboro clan as religious extremists, my synapses were firing with comparisons.  

Callers to the show missed those comparisons entirely.  One of the first callers after the interview was quick to point out that Phelps-Roker's views "Do not represent the view of typical Christians (Unspoken: Prices may not reflect sales tax, void in New Hampshire)."  Another caller was quick to label Phelps and his gang as "typical war protestors".  Huh?

You see, to the host's (and the callers') middle-of-the-road when-it's-convenient Conservative Christian ideology, the members of the Westboro Baptist Church are obscene unamerican wackos, and they have twisted God's word into horrifying contortions.  

This, incidentally, is exactly how I feel about large chunks of mainstream Christianity in America in 2006.  Hear me out on this...

Westboro Baptists say that America's obsene, immoral lifestyle, with extreme focus on "Pagan traditions" of possessions and self-gratification, is bringing the fire and brimstone down on itself.  Similarly, many mainstream Christian war-hawks believe that the heathen ways of the Muslim community are bringing God's vengeance down on the other side, as the one true God defends his righteous chosen bretheren.  Muslim extremists are even less ambiguous about their own motivations, as they don't even try to hide the fact that they fight in the name of a "Holy War", or jihad.  

Phelps offends mainstream Christians and Muslims, mainstream Christians offend Muslims and Phelps, and Muslims offend Phelps and mainstream Christians.  At the center of all of this are people like you and me, who are simply offended by ALL OF IT.  Forgive me if I gaze around with amused befuddlement at myriads of extremist groups all clamoring to label each other as "more extreme".

I cringe when I hear my neighbors on talk radio speaking on warfare in terms of good vs. evil - little more than early slang for "suburban Holy War".  The ever popular phrase, "Islamofascist" is, you guessed it, also preparatory slang for a "Holy War".  The constant subtle reminders of "our God" vs. "their God" are almost laughable, as though there is more than one (if there is one at all - sorry mom and dad).

Phelps and his band of merry men and women are disgusting.  Modern mainstream Christian groups who condone the "War on Islamofascism" and the inevitable death of innocents in the name of defeating "evil" are similarly disgusting in their ignorance in the name of religion.  And likewise, Muslims who carry out death and terror in the name of contorted religion are of equal disgust in my eyes.

One religious view more extreme than another?  These days, it's a matter of perspective isn't it.  I wonder whether a grieving Iraqi mother would view a typical Christian war-hawk as a religious extremist?

Yet, I just can't help but find the pissing contest amusing.  Is it a sign of insanity to laugh uncontrollably in the middle of Hell?


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The sad truth, as you point out, is that "mainstream" conservative Christianity isn't as far from Phelps as it would have us believe:  just witness the numerous similar remarks from prominent leaders such as Falwell and Pat Robertson (most recently Robertson's comments that Sharon's stroke was retribution for the partial withdrawal of settlers).  While these leaders receive desultory rebukes for their comments, they go right on being prominent members of the Konservitarian Kristian Elite, with close ties to the GOP.

(And this is not even bringing up the loony Rev. Moon ...)

-- Stu

by sdf on 01/11/2006 12:00:00 PM EST

Between political leaders and their followers.

To quote Chip Berlet:

"Polls show that most people in the United States do not agree with the narrow legislative agenda of the leaders of the Christian Right. Polls also show that most people think of themselves as part of an organized religion, and that as many as 100 million of our neighbors think of themselves as Christian evangelicals or "born again." Why would an organizer start out by offending half their potential audience with language that is abrasive?

We need to challenge conservative policies as part of a progressive grassroots organizing effort based on civil and constructive dialog. The whole idea of grassroots organizing is to reach out to people who may not already think they agree with you. As a community organizer, when I heard discussions about slogans, I always asked: "What's my next line?"

Let's role-play. So here I am knocking on a door in Emporia, Kansas, and when the door opens I lead with "We have to stop the religious political extremists!" What's my next line? (That's assuming my nose wasn't broken when the door was slammed in my face). Unless the person already agrees with me, there is no constructive next line.
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by Bruce Wilson on 01/17/2006 01:01:20 PM EST

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