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Fairness and Inclusion for Florida & Michigan Voters Email Print

Let's face it - it's unfair, undemocratic and quite preposterous for the Democratic party to select a candidate for president without including voters from every state in the union. Now that it seems unlikely that either Florida or Michigan will have a revote for the presidential primary, the Democratic National Committee needs to move forward with a decision that empowers those states' voters without undermining DNC Rules and Bylaws and the state courts that have gotten involved in DNC's decision to strip those two states of their delegates.

It's likely that no matter what the DNC does at this point they won't please everyone, but since we're seeing an unprecedented response from Democratic voters this year the DNC needs to move forward quickly to ride the wave of public engagement this primary has already engendered.

A productive way for the DNC to validate rank-and-file voters is to find a reasonable way to reinstate their pledged delegates without seating any of those two states' superdelegates. Superdelegates are supposed to be experienced party leaders with the vision and judgment to do what is best for the Democratic party, even when it means overturning the will of the voters. Florida and Michigan's supers could have used their "superior judgment and vision" to get their states to comply with the primary plan that had already been agreed to by the DNC and their states. Yet those supers were either supportive of, or chose not to reject, the decisions to move up their states' primaries which led to the dilemma the Democratic party now faces. They may have figured their states could best influence the primary by shaping early perception of the candidates, even if it meant forfeiting their delegates. Their poor judgment last year and now their blaming of the DNC in a refusal to acknowledge their key role for this fiasco indicates they lack the vision and leadership skills required of superdelegates. To send a strong message that prevents future line-jumping by other states, the DNC is right to penalize the supers of these two states by refusing to seat them at the 2008 Democratic National Convention.

The big question is:  Can the DNC reinstate just the pledged delegates in order to uphold democracy and validate otherwise disenfranchised voters who had no real say in the decision to move up the primaries? Clearly, whoever wins the nomination will need the enthusiastic support of Democrats in those states to win the general election. Is there a fair and reasonable way to reinstate pledged delegates so that Florida and Michigan voters stay engaged and trusting enough to vote next November?

Barack Obama has suggested we split the delegates 50/50, but the voters clearly didn't vote that way in either state. I'm a Barack supporter, as my other blogs attest, but splitting the votes evenly between the two candidates disregards and disrespects votes cast for Hillary Clinton. It can be reasonably argued that as more and more voters are introduced to (and engaged by) Obama, he increases his chances of countering Clinton's name-recognition advantage. After DNC stripped Michigan of its 156 delegates, the Michigan Supreme Court ruled that the primary could proceed as scheduled. Delegates would be awarded per the popular vote, requiring a candidate to have 15% of the vote to receive any delegates. While Hillary Clinton and Christopher Dodd decided to remain on the Michigan ballot, Obama, Biden, Edwards, and Richardson officially left the Michigan primary in deference to the DNC's rules. (Some political analysts claim that they may have unofficially left in order to deprive Clinton of the momentum that she would have gained in Michigan.)  Regardless, there's no way to tell now how many voters would have chosen Obama if he were on the ballot in Michigan.  

Florida, on the other hand, had both Clinton and Obama on the ballot, along with the other six candidates, four of whom had already dropped out of the race (Joe Biden, Chris Dodd, Dennis Kucinich, and Bill Richardson). Since neither Clinton nor Obama openly campaigned in the state, Clinton's name-recognition may have been an advantage, but Obama's campaign was running a nationwide TV advertising campaign before Super Tuesday on February 5th that was shown in all states, including Florida. (Obama's campaign asked for the ads not to be shown in Florida, but were told by the cable networks this was not possible.) We'll never know if the 14-15% of voters who cast ballots for the six candidates who have since dropped out of the race would have voted for Clinton or Obama  More importantly, we don't know when the other six candidates would have left the race if these two rogue states hadn't moved up their primaries. For instance, John Edwards stopped campaigning the day after the Florida vote.  If Florida had voted well after Edwards and others left the race, how would that have affected the results for Obama?  More importantly, can anything be done now to help mitigate the effect moving up the primaries had on the pool of candidates in those states.

One potential solution would be to take Florida's votes cast for the candidates who have dropped out of the race (Edwards, Biden, Richardson, Kucinich, Dodd and Gavel) and split them 50/50 between the two remaining candidates. This allows both Clinton and Obama to retain the delegates they've earned from votes they actually received (105 and 67, respectively), while splitting John Edwards 13 delegates between the two remaining candidates (none of the other candidates earned enough votes to be awarded delegates, see results below.) This would give each of them another 151360 votes, which changes Clinton's 49.77% win over Obama's 32.93% to a Clinton win of 58.42% to 41.58%. Since Clinton received a larger proportion of the votes, a 50/50 split of the rest of the votes benefits Obama slightly more, but it's still a reasonably fair way to allocate votes that went to candidates who may have been long gone from the race by the time of Florida's primary, had they not moved it up to January 29th.  It's true that some voters deliberately vote for candidates who've left the race just to make a point. But if those names are no longer on the ballot by the time a state primary occurs, it's reasonable to assume most people would vote for one of the remaining candidates instead. The important thing is that the voters who selected Obama or Clinton are still counted exactly as they voted, while sharing the extra votes mitigates the effect that moving up the primary had on which candidates were still running.  Of course, Michigan is another story, since Obama wasn't even on the ballot there.

This proposal may not be a perfect solution to the quandary faced by Florida and Michigan's voters, but it's a valid starting point.for the DNC to fix the problem of two states with potentially angry disenfranchised voters. Whatever solution is chosen, I hope the voters in those states feel satisfied enough to vote again next November  because we'll certainly need them.

Florida Democratic Primary Results

Candidate                  Votes      Percentage     National delegates
Hillary Clinton         870,986     49.77%         [105]
Barack Obama         576,214     32.93%          [67]
John Edwards           251,562    14.38%          [13]
Joe Biden                   15,704     0.90%
Bill Richardson          14,999     0.86%
Dennis Kucinich          9,703     0.55%
Christopher Dodd        5,477     0.31%
Mike Gravel                 5,275     0.30%

From  http://en.wikipedia.org/wik i/Florida_Democratic_primar y,_2008  
See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wik i/Florida_Democratic_primar y,_2008


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How should the DNC handle the Florida & Michigan debacle?
Reinstate the pledged delegates without the superdelegates. 14%
Give back all their delegates & let the supers decide how to allocate them. 0%
Ignore the whole mess. We can win next fall without appeasing Fl & MI voters 85%

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Once you ignore the forced rule-breaking by the Republican-dominated Florida legislature, you can just run amok and postulate anything you want.

The real question is: why do we even have primaries? Why do parties get to dominate our elections?

Deeper yet: why do we have constitutional government, with the voting procedures set up in the constitution, and then spread down to the states?

The logical fallacy in having multilayer and conflicting government generates the inconsistencies that generate articles like these.

Parties shouldn't exist. They were warned against in the beginning of the nation. It's still true.

Parties lead to mindless tribal behavior.

That's corrosive of constitutional government, laws, not men (or parties). Parties are monarchs, squabbling over power. Abolish parties, have elections funded by taxes.

Otherwise, democracy doesn't work.

by ormondotvos on 03/30/2008 12:15:18 PM EST

What we need is for the DNC to admit they blew it this time, apologize to the voters whose votes were lost, arrive at a compromise solution, without claiming it to be perfect, and THEN...

We should use this incident to realize that the ENTIRE process of "staged" primaries is set up to disenfranchise the voters whose states vote later in the process.  Why should a relatively few of our citizens in a few small states (the same ones, as dictated by "tradition") have the power to ELIMINATE candidates from the race BEFORE the majority of Americans have the CHANCE to vote?

For future presidential elections, we should use this opportunity to reform the system, by a Constitutional Amendment if necessary, to require both parties (and all future "organizations which sponsor candidates for President" and which have "two or more of their members competing for that sponsorship") to hold ONE BINDING PRIMARY on the SAME DAY (Flag Day on June 14, or the nearest Tuesday, would be appropriate) to select at least 95 percent of the votes for that "sponsorship".  The exact math used could be set up by these "organizations" and vary by state, as long as it is predetermined to be related to the results of the primary.  The other 5 percent of the delegates could be selected any way that the "organization" specified.  ONLY THOSE ORGANIZATIONS (PARTIES) THAT AGREE TO THESE RULES WOULD BE ALLOWED TO SPONSOR CANDIDATES IN THE GENERAL PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

The press, parties and candidate campaigns would be free to hold non-binding caucuses if they wish, at any time before the primary, or to take opinion polls, ask for donations on the basis of "horse race" standings at any time, or drop out at any time.  But at the time of the binding primary, ALL STATES WOULD VOTE ON THE SAME LIST OF CANDIDATES IN EACH PARTY.  There would no longer be any way for ANY state to vote candidates out (officially, anyway) before any OTHER state has a chance to vote for them.

I could also suggest some improvements in the General Election vote counting that would reflect the will of the people more closely, but that is another post subject.

Violence is the last resort of the incompetent. -- Mayor Salvor Hardin, in "Foundation" by Isaac Asimov

by DaneelO on 03/30/2008 09:37:04 PM EST

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